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one_woman_man
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Re: Fellatio girth struggles

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Does anyone here have any tips or tricks for improved range of motion in the jaw area? Jaw calisthenics? Jaw stretches?
As others have mentioned, gentle and gradual stretching is helpful. Also, giving jaw muscle massages is something for you to try. Obviously everyone has their limits on how far they can drop their jaw, but to reach one's maximum, stretching and massaging are the way to go.

It was only after coming to TMB and seeing the numbers (and the checking them online too), that I measured myself and discovered why DW had initially had such difficulty in accommodating me. More than my above average length, my girth was more of a problem. Fortunately DW can open her mouth very wide, for longer periods of time now than initially. (I like to joke with her, "Your face is very pretty, but your mouth really sucks!)

We also find that getting the angle right is of help. So, for example, kneeling between my legs while I'm lying on my back isn't very comfortable or relaxing for her jaw. Instead, with me on my back and my knees slightly bent and legs splayed, her lying beside me with her left ear on my stomach allows her to relax and receive me the best. Her right hand can manipulate and direct my shaft while her left hand reaches under my right leg and curls around to hold and stimulate my balls, etc. A well positioned mirror allows both of us maintain eye contact and to watch her do her magic!

On a separate note, there is another benefit of this position for those who have a strong gag reflex. In this position it is possible for her to receive the ejaculate in the pocket of her cheek, if you so choose.
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Re: Fellatio girth struggles

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one_woman_man wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:42 am It was only after coming to TMB and seeing the numbers (and the checking them online too), that I measured myself and discovered why DW had initially had such difficulty in accommodating me. More than my above average length, my girth was more of a problem. Fortunately DW can open her mouth very wide, for longer periods of time now than initially. (I like to joke with her, "Your face is very pretty, but your mouth really sucks!)

We also find that getting the angle right is of help. So, for example, kneeling between my legs while I'm lying on my back isn't very comfortable or relaxing for her jaw. Instead, with me on my back and my knees slightly bent and legs splayed, her lying beside me with her left ear on my stomach allows her to relax and receive me the best. Her right hand can manipulate and direct my shaft while her left hand reaches under my right leg and curls around to hold and stimulate my balls, etc. A well positioned mirror allows both of us maintain eye contact and to watch her do her magic!

On a separate note, there is another benefit of this position for those who have a strong gag reflex. In this position it is possible for her to receive the ejaculate in the pocket of her cheek, if you so choose.
Very good ideas and tips here—thanks! We may try these, as my girth has been even more of an issue than my length, though both present significant challenges. I’d kind of resigned myself to her never getting further down than my circumcision scar, but you’ve given me some hope here. Thanks!
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Re: Fellatio girth struggles

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Horseman1978 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:33 am Just an update on our "challenges".

> I took the advice of Research_360 and bought a stack of tongue depressors for the "jaw aperture" training.
> I actually cut them in half and drilled a hole in each one, and bound them on a loop of Paracord like a giant keychain.
How creative! I'm impressed!
> Since there are now TWO sets of jaw training "tools", I can share in the challenge with DW.
I really appreciate the empathy you've shown for your DW, which is proven is your eagerness to walk this path with her. You sound encouraging and supportive.
> After several hours of using it (15-20 second intervals every 45 min to hour,
Thank you for providing those details. As you and your DW train more, you will discover the interval that works best for you both. Please continue to share that information.
>DW offered to "test her progress" and performed her best fellatio ever.
Thank God. That is wonderful.
> She felt great and it was already easier to take me.
That is our goal.
>Her and I both suspect that a couple weeks of casual practice will yield even greater results.
Here again, I appreciate your teaming so well with your wife. You can estimate progress since you are doing it yourself with you DW. That naturally promotes your own patience. This takes time. Go slow and steady - without pain.
>her and I both found that periodically, the tool would trigger our gag reflexes.

Yes, this is not surprising. Two things are happening. (1) your jaw is in an unusual position. Your brain becomes suspicious that "something is not quite right". Also (2) the tongue depressors have a somewhat rough texture which generally adds to the suspicion that "something is not quite right". The gag reflex is often triggered when the brain feels that "something is not quite right". Possible solutions:

- try to be as relaxed as possible (no stress)
- breath a little more deeply than you would normally (one of the most effective ways of convincing your brain that things are "OK" i.e. that choking and breathing is not a problem - is simply breathing more fully.
- be aware that saliva buildup can cause gagging all by itself (i.e. a perceived breathing problem) so swallow frequently.
- you might find that a smooth surface (i.e. smooth plastic) may be less aversive than fairly rough wood. the "gentle jaw" might be better for that.?.. (please let me know)

There are many other tricks but these are the main ones that should help a bit. While not gagging, you will slowly acclimate to these training exercises - comfort should increase and total acclimation should eventually result.
>she felt far greater relief from the reduced propensity to gag when going slightly deeper.
Very very good! Her training is obviously working!
>Obviously, we are really "new" to fellatio, so we will know more over the coming weeks.
Thanks you again for providing this feedback. That is reassuring for me too. Please remember to keep us updated over as you continue training.

Summary: these are effective techniques to increase the jaw opening. There are different training techniques associated taking the penis in deeper. We have not discussed those yet.
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Re: Fellatio girth struggles

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research_360 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:56 am
Summary: these are effective techniques to open the jaw a little wider. There are different training techniques associated taking the penis in deeper. We have not discussed those yet.

Thanks for the kind words; we are finally having fun with sexual play and input from folks here is invaluable!

**"Here's a funny story related to these "jaw tools" from last night***

We were both holding the tongue depressor "jaw tool" in our mouths while stirring soup on the stove yesterday evening... Yes, you may have guessed; the kids 11M and 13F walk in and immediately stare.... DW looks at me with WIDE EYES and I turn to see the kids; I removed my "tool" and calmly ask the kids what they are starting at... DW is still holding the tool in her mouth looking horrified while stirring the soup.

I tell the kids that it's a tool to help mom not grind her teeth at night, at which my son says: "Then why do YOU have one in your mouth dad"?

DW seizes the opportunity to finally remove hers and says: "Daddy is doing it as a preventative measure", then pops hers in MY MOUTH, causing me to gag violently, as SHE has two more sticks in hers than mine!!! She calmly gives me the "side eye" and says: It's my turn to make YOU gag horse! We laughed way too hard and later turned the eating of Sauerkraut soup into the most erotic thing we could. Taking turns making eye contact while slowly inserting the spoon into our mouth. The kids were truly perplexed and daughter said, "Daddy why are you two staring at each other and playing with your spoon?" We had a good laugh and it ultimately led to her "best work" ever later that night.


*I'm definitely interested in anything that may help her comfortably take me deeper. Full "deep throat" may never happen, and that's not the goal anyway, though I am not opposed, I am also realistic and don't want her to ever think that unless she does "that", she not good enough!

She is simply just another 1/4" to 1/2" shy of putting her lips on the most nerve rich areas! I'm still humbled and thrilled that she has so willingly agreed to even try, so I'm not here to put any pressure on her.


In fact, though it's not related to fellatio, I was so grateful for her OS last night that I asked her if I could reciprocate by having her coach me on my "cunnilinguis game" tonight; she not only agreed, but said she would mentally prepare and look forward to my efforts. This is a big deal for me, as I adore blessing her this way, but a combination of her remaining mental hangups and likely some of my technique, have made it infrequent.

I told her that my goal was to someday be good enough at it that she ASKS for it instead of merely "agreeing" to receive! I'm definitely looking forward to blessing that gal tonight!!!

-Horseman1978-
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Re: Fellatio girth struggles

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Horseman1978, you & your DW are a great encouragement to me & my DW. I've thoroughly researched fellatio training for more than a decade. My DW and I are writing an innovative/comprehensive book and making a patented product for fellatio training. It's been a long road and we may still have a way to go. We believe that Christian marriage is continually challenged and temped by the world, so our earnest goal is to enrich and strengthen Christian marriages; drawing spouses closer to God and each other - blessed, thriving and protected from the world. Instead of being passive with ubiquitous temptations of porn, extramarital affairs and hookups, we want to take an active role, enriching Christian marriages so that spouses would be compelled to love & satisfy each other with God's marital blessings that are clearly better than anything the world can offer. Horseman1978, you and your DW seem to be doing exactly that - it takes intention and work, yet I'm delighted you're both having fun with it!!! I pray that our Lord will continue to richly bless you and your marriage - and your posts will serve as an inspiration for other spouses to likewise cherish their spouses and their marriages, while giving God all praise and honor. I thank God that TMB staff and members like you make this forum so helpful and encouraging.
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