Prov519 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2026 7:51 am
So the simple solutions is: if you don't want to commit yourself in that way, do yourself and them a favor and DON'T GET MARRIED.
Unfortunately most folks, especially women, don't get that message.
I agree with both here. But my question is why do you think that women especially "don't get that message"?
I had a similar post years ago asking in a very harsh tone why the heck would a wife get married in the first place. Did not go over well here.
The posted original message here was to go over what Cor 7 verses mean. So the question of why a woman does not get the message probably needs its own post question seperate of this one? Many reasons off and on have been posted on TMB over the years. But the question appears to remain a big sink hole not answered to most readers satisfaction ?
But in my opinion saying woman have not received encouragement and inputs that sex is pleasurable, or that they need Cor 7 explained to them just does not cut it. Way more to it in my opinion.
Olorin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2026 3:18 am
Having married ladies talking to brides-to-be about sex is a great idea, especially for woman who have remained virgins. They need to understand their husbands-to-be are going to be raring to go once the vows are said.
The other side, of course, is for someone to talk to the groom and explain her reality and what he can do to show her love and grace. Some loving self-control on his part the first night can go a long way.
For a virgin woman, I tell the guy he doesn't have to have intercourse the first night. Focus on exploring and having orgasms.
Happily married for 41 years and living the good life near two of our grandsons!
Olorin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2026 3:18 am
Having married ladies talking to brides-to-be about sex is a great idea, especially for woman who have remained virgins. They need to understand their husbands-to-be are going to be raring to go once the vows are said.
The other side, of course, is for someone to talk to the groom and explain her reality and what he can do to show her love and grace. Some loving self-control on his part the first night can go a long way.
For a virgin woman, I tell the guy he doesn't have to have intercourse the first night. Focus on exploring and having orgasms.
Yes, a talk with the groom is also a wonderful idea! It is funny that during our pre-marriage counseling, the minister took the time to make sure we were not having sex (which we were not), but said nothing about what to expect the first night together.
Tantalum wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2026 7:32 am
I think that’s a decent interpretation of Paul’s words.
I don’t know about you but I must admit that sometimes when I’m reading Paul, I’m really struggling to understand what he means.
Sometimes I read out a section to my wife and say “Hey, do you think when the Ephesians received the letter and read it, they were scratching their heads too?”
Ephesians was a circular letter, so it was many different believing groups who read it. Ch 1-3 is about doctrine and then ch 4-6 about practice.
The Corinthians were a very sexual society and hence the need for the Apostle Paul to go into specific details about what God considered right or wrong, so there could be no doubt.
Paraphrases can be good but if you don’t one the Greek ( and I’ve not studied this) you might go astray on what they are saying. Commentary may or may not assist. What should be remembered is that God does desire that we understand and has provided the keys in His word to do so. For example with the parables “The parable of the sower” Mark 4, etc, the keys as to the meanings of each “item” are given.
LBD wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2026 5:34 am
But one of the biggest mistakes I see people make in understanding the Bible is not reading the Bible! Read it like it was meant to be read - fully, start of a book/letter through to the end.
Spot on!
Our church teaches through an entire book. And we advocate the a through the Bible in a year program.
Deep study is great, but if you don't know the Word in context that won't be very usefull.
We have a reading plan which takes us through the O.T once and N.T twice. The gospels are read out of order so that you get the balance when you come back to the next one. We read 2 portions of the old and one of the new testaments. The only day there is a problem is February 29!
Prov519 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2026 7:51 am
So the simple solutions is: if you don't want to commit yourself in that way, do yourself and them a favor and DON'T GET MARRIED.
Unfortunately most folks, especially women, don't get that message.
I agree with both here. But my question is why do you think that women especially "don't get that message"?
Because they are probably not being taught by the right teachers.........
Titus 2
3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
Who better than "aged women" to teach new wives and brides to be, about sex? I have found ZERO biblical evidence for "pastoral counseling"
I’ve seen 1 Corinthians 7 dismissed for modern application because of it addressing those married in a specific church and time thinking it was holy not to have sex. How many women have refused over centuries thinking it was shameful?
Then why is it in the Bible? Do we not discover modern life applications for all kinds of things in Bible study? Can I explain away Matthew 19 on divorce because Jesus was talking more to the Pharisees about loopholes and outward appearances instead of the heart condition? If they saw a woman they preferred, they could first divorce to not technically commit adultery?